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Thursday, November 14, 2013

Kant and Wallstonecraft

Kant and Wallstonecraft were both enlightenment thinkers.  Think about how they are similar and how they are different (note:  One is a man and one is a woman).

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  1. Immanuel Kant's views on enlightenment were similar to those of Mary Wollstonecraft's because they both saw enlightenment as an emergence from immaturity. They both saw enlightenment as standing on your own and not basing your beliefs on someone else's understanding. However, Kant, whose views were aimed towards men, believed that man should emerge from "self-imposed" immaturity, which spouts from laziness and cowardice. Kant argues that man shouldn't fear failure. Kant states, "Have the courage to make use of your own understanding." He supports the Enlightenment quest for individual knowledge that is characteristic of the period. Mary Wollstonecraft, on the other hand, (whose argument is directed towards women) believes that women should emerge from "society-inflicted" immaturity, which spouts from the subordination and inferiority of women to men. She argues that women should cast off their symbols of weakness, but that they can't learn anything if they are not given the freedom to learn. Wollstonecraft's ideas reflect the Enlightenment of intellectual freedom, by supporting the intellectual freedom of women in order to achieve progress and equal rights to those of men. Wollstonecraft believes that if women have equal rights to men, they will also gain equal virtues and wisdom.

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  3. Both Wollstonecraft and Kant were enlightened thinkers because they question society and they way people think. The latter implores people to become self-sufficient and expand their understanding, calling the people who are not as "immature." Much similar as a child. Most enlightened thinkers believe that God has given man the able to reason and understand which would be wasteful not to utilize it. Kant speaks for a lot of enlightened thinkers, leading to Wollstonecraft who is a woman and despite it being frowned upon to have women join in discuss of enlightenment were still apart of it. Most women host salon were (male) thinkers would exchange ideas. Wollstonecraft wants what Kant is imploring a emancipation of immaturity; making her a feminist which is again enlightenment because she questions our long held views of womenfolk. Wollstonecraft wants education for women and have rights.Also she was the mother of Mary Shelley.

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  4. Kant and Wollstonecraft held many similar beliefs which were characteristics of the Enlightenment period. These included the notion that Enlightenment was achieved through crafting one's own ideas about the world, rather than stemming them from the ideas of others. Kant refers to this idea of Enlightenment as "man's emergence from his self-imposed immaturity." In this statement, Kant, a male, is referring to men and only men. On the other hand, Wollstonecraft, a female, is speaking directly to women in her writing. While Kant is speaking to a certain gender in an effort to keep the status quo, Wollstonecraft is speaking to the other gender in an effort to spark a change in the dynamics of her society. She believes that the only reason most women are still "immature" and dependent on men is because they have not been afforded a proper education to be able to develop their own ideas. This, along with the discrimination Wollstonecraft faced from men, may have influenced Wollstonecraft's differing beliefs from Kant.

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  5. Kant describes someone who is enlightened as one who is no longer guided and influenced by another person as well as someone who is not afraid to speak out against the social norm even if their is consequences. Wallstonecraft is in this selection speaking out against a social norm this being the unfair social and educational opportunities for women she states that the reason that the reason that women are inferior is because they are not given the same opportunities to prove or learn otherwise. Wallstonecraft is using Kant's idea of thinking for ones self without any outside influence as well as challenging this long held social idea

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  6. Kant and Wollstonecraft were similar in the fact that they believed enlightenment was achieved by gaining your own sense of understanding in the world. Kant believed that men allowed themselves to be ignorant because they have so many people to think and do for them. Wollstonecraft states that women are still immature and ignorant because men are theses enablers who keep them veiled in their own ignorance. Education is key, and it is impossible for women to outgrow their immaturity if these "men of understanding" do not allow them to think freely. Of course Kant appeals to the virtues of a man while Wollstonecraft is begging for the education of women, and women's rights. Kant states that it is human nature for a man to be veiled in ignorance until he is courageous enough to stand alone a think for himself. Wollstonecraft parallels this by claiming that the inferiority of women, because of this forced immaturity, is the law of nature. Both agree that the achievement of enlightenment is the ability to overcome self- imposed immaturity. Wollstonecraft however claims that this is socially inflicted on women by man, while Kant claims that every man is born immature.

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  7. Both use the "Immaturity" as one of the main themes for their reasons to think differently on new ideas.He argued that moral requirements are based on a standard of rationality he dubbed the “Categorical Imperative." Other philosophers, such as Locke and Hobbes, had also argued that moral requirements are based on standards of rationality.Wollstonecraft believed that all humans are essentially rational as well. She believed that the fully developed human that was nearest to the perfection of God learns to use reason to control or to channel his/her passions. She also was extremely critical of the stereotypes of femininity and of the women who lived up to them. She observed that many women were in fact irrational and concerned only with trivial things like fashion.

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  8. Both Kant and walstonecraft are enlighten thinkers because they question society's view of life. Kant talks about being released from a state of "immaturity" meaning that people should be self-sufficient and use reason. Maybe use Louis xii as an example of immaturity. Because of Louis age, Richelieu ruled France for him. Wollstonecraft thinks that women should have more rights and access to education. She is a women and talks about women's influence during the enlightenment. She explains hosting salons and patronizing philosophers. Salons were women's ticket to education. Many times during this period women would become these philosophes sugggaaa mommas and in return receive education, like we see with Diderot and Rousseau.

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  9. Kant believes that immaturity is not the inability to understand but the inability to understand without guidance. This view is similar to Wallstoncraft. She believed that ignorance stems from guidance and that true knowledge or understanding for women can only be bestowed by freedom from men. Kant believes that man was made to seek guidance from others, but Wallstone craft believes that men are more physical and therefore independent and knowledgable, while women are not as physically apt therefore ignorant as they seek guidance.

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