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Friday, October 11, 2013

10.11.13 Stuart's Blog

Read the Test #5 documents under readings.  The Millenary Petition, English Puritans, and the Test Act.  Blog three total (you do not have to respond to each document) comments, insights, or thoughts about these documents, and how they might relate to other things we've discussed about Wars of Religion in the 1500s and 1600s.
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  1. English Puritans Explain Their Emigration to America:
    "He makes it clear the religious zeal...that inspired the first settlers."
    While religion drove the settlers to settle in North America, religion also inspired the War of Religion.


    English Puritans Explain Their Emigration to America:
    "It will be a great service to the Church...to raise a bulwark against the kingdom of Antichrist..."
    During the War of Religion, the Catholics wanted to spread Catholicism and crush the Protestants and their rebellions.


    Test Act:
    "...take the several oaths of supremacy and allegiance..."
    This quote reminded me of the Act of Succession (1534) which required everyone to take an oath that stated King Henry VIII was the head of the Anglican Church.

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    1. In response to Kelly's comment about how English Puritans Explain Their Emigration to America: I agree with her explanation of the quote because the Protestants were afraid of the Catholics persecution during the wars of religion so they used that as their reasoning for going to the new world. They wanted new religious freedoms, and they wanted to escape the religios persecution they were dealing with.

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  2. In the Millenary petition those who are writing it believe that the church needs to be reformed in some minor ways weather it be the ceremony or discipline within the church.


    John Winthrop states his reasons for leaving England for America with his main reasoning being that he wants to do a service to God in spreading religion to these unknown wildernesses.

    The test act shows how the English government is discriminating against those who do not conform to the established ways of religion by not giving them pay or the ability to hold public office.

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    1. I agree with what Dylan is saying because they are forcing people to accept their ways or not get paid at all. So basically you have to accept their ways or leave the country.

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  3. In the Millenary petition, James' subjects bring forth complaints about the church while trying to kiss up to James by telling him he is a great ruler and then guilt tripping him into changing the laws by saying that if he was a Godly man he would change the laws.

    In the Test Act any person wanting to take office in England had to admit that the Lord's Supper was not literally the body and blood of Christ. This shows some of the separation between the Anglican Church and the Catholic Church.

    John Winthrop said, "It will be a great service to the Church to carry the Gospel into those parts of the world." This quote shows that the main goal in settling in the new world was to spread their religion. In the saying God Gold and Glory the emphasis is on God.

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    1. I agree with Libby's comment about the Test Act because during this time there was a great amount of religious conflict going on, especially between Protestants and Catholics. I agree with her when she said it shows the separation between the Anglican Church and the Catholics. The act forced anyone taking office to admit that the wine and bread taken during communion were figuratively the blood and body of Christ rather that the literal blood and body. This shows that the people coming in office had the people ruling England at this time were Protestant influences.

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  4. In the military petition, James' subjects state that discipline and exocommunication couldn't be issued by officials, or chancellors. It stated that it could only be issued with the pastor's consent. But after the War of the Roses with Henry VII as ruler, he did the opposite of the petition and was allowed to declare anyone guilty, order excecutions, and sieze property all without the pastor's consent.

    In the military petition it stated that only able men be able to be admitted into the church ministry. This differed from royal positions in the religious wars as simony was constantly employed to gain favor, even if the people who bought the positions were not able men.

    In the reasons for the puritans going to America they state that there is nothing better to spread Christianity in America. This religious view differed from Queen Elizabeth, who ruled England and often fought off Scottish Catholics. She didn't believe strongly in religion and did not share the same vigour for spreading it. This is why she remained a politique because she wanted to be supported by her people, unlike the puritans who favored their religion so much that they aggravated people enough to be kicked out of England

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  5. In the Millenary Petition the people think there should be changes to the church. But they are afraid to force the idea upon James. You can tell from how much they praise and call him flattering names. They also kind of guilt trip him into it.

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  6. John Winthrop feels like its his duty to spread his religion. John also feels like its the most honorable and Christian work. Those reason look good on paper but he also did it because England didn't want him anymore "This land (England) grows weary of its inhabitants..."

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  7. I agree with what Libby said about John Winthrop because the English are referring to a Spanish saying and implying that they cared more about Gold than God. The Protestant English are saying that they care more about God and are more religious than Catholic Spain

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  8. On the 5th part of the reasons that the Puritans emigrated to the new world they state that they want to start a church from its infancy so that it will be pure. They believe that the Anglican and Catholic churches have become corrupt and that they need to be purified. This goes back to the Protestant Reformation when Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli all believed this too. The Puritans have been forced to leave because "England has grown weary of it inhabitants".

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  9. The Test Act relates to the Wars of Religion, because it is directed against Catholics. There were strict laws placed during the wars of religion to ensure people remained faithful to the Church of England. The monarch forced people of importance in England to take an oath to him to ensure loyalty.

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  10. In Winthrop's reasons for leaving England, he does not solely say he leaves England because of dislike for the Anglican Church; he states it is his duty to spread Christianity around the world. He cites Genesis to prove that the whole earth has been given to man in order to replenish and nurture it.

    Again in Winthrop's reasonings, he claims that there is no better a way to show one's Chrisitanity than to nurture a church from its beginnings. Because the Anglican Church is already established in England, Winthrop feels as though it is his duty to begin a new church in a relatively uncivilized and uninhabited land.

    The final article gives reasons for the need of the Test Act, saying that it is required in order to prevent the atrocities of the Catholic Church. The article says that English subjects must sign on oath of succession (implemented by Henry VIII) in order to create a stronger and more efficient religion and church with the crown at the head.

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  11. In the Millenary position, the people are trying to list ideas that they have for possible reforms in the Church. They fear James but are still trying to ask him to consider the changes. They use words to suck up to him like "your gracious answer" and "your highness".

    In the puritans explaining their reasonings for coming to america, they quote a bible reference that says, "the whole Earth is the Lord's garden." This reference to the Bible explains how they felt it was their duty under the Bible to come to these new parts and spread God's word.

    The Test Act is a way to make the people who arent really conforming to the religious ways of the English government have to change their ways if they want to hold positions in office and other things. The quote included also says how maybe they are doing this to prevent future incidents and problems between the two groups.

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  12. The Millenary Petition stated what the people objected to. These included the signing of the cross during baptism, the use of women during the administration of baptism, bowing at the name of Jesus, the use of the words ‘priest’ and ‘absolution’, the wearing of the square cap and the surplice. They also wanted the Sabbath to be better observed and the quality of the clergy in England and Wales to be improved.

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  13. In the documents describing English Puritans reasons for migration, John Winthrop describes why the Puritans left England. He claims the Puritans were persecuted and wanted freedom of religion. This is true to a certain extent. However, the Puritans cause much trouble in England and were a problem for Queen Elizabeth. When the Puritans arrived in America, they persecuted others for not agreeing with their beliefs which is very ironic.

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  14. In the Test Act, they are forcing everyone to be Anglican so that there will be political stability and there will no be wars of religion. The English want to centralize the nation.

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  15. Test act
    This document relates to the strict laws that were in place during the wars of religion. This document states that you had to take several oaths of supremacy and allegiance, saying you were apart of that religion of England and didn't worship other things.

    Test act
    I don't get why if you were going to be admitted into the office of England or other high importance offices that you had to do certain things and pledge to them. Just like with Ferdinand the second and wallenstein, he was protestant before and turned catholic so he could help Ferdinand. I feel that you should have your own believes like we do today instead of the strict laws back then.

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  16. In the Millenary petition, the citizens under King James complain about the church but also try to get him to change the laws by saying that if he was a Godly man he would change them.
    In the Test Act, someone who wants to hold an office in England had to say that the Lord's Supper was not literally the body and blood of Christ.
    I agree with Libby when she said that John Winthrop's main goal in the new world was to spread their religion and make God the main focus.

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  17. The Military Petition
    In this passage, ministers of England are attempting to persuade King James into reforming part of the church by using flattery and false humility. They compare james to god both to flatter him and to guilt him into doing what they think god would do.

    English Puritans
    In this passage, the Governor of Massachussetts Bay Colony, John Winthrop, explains his reasoning behind settling in the New World. He cites religious and moral zeal as his reasons, such as to build a "city on a hill", but fails to mention underlying reasons such as a potential for a better quality of life and more flexible social mobility.

    Test Act
    In this passage, the act describes new restrictions placed on people wanting to go into office. It goes against Catholics in england by saying that the people must abide by the laws of the Anglican Church, going so far as to say that these people must practice communion in the Anglican Way. This could be seen as ironic because, in most ways, the Catholic and Anglican church did not differ.

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  18. The Petition
    This petition is in relation to the wars of religion in that these people want certain changes in the England church after James' accession. In the wars of religion people wanted change and wanted freedom of worship.

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  19. The document involving Millenary Petition is a document from ministers complaining about the way the King alters the church. The kings affect on the church was very impacting in the Church of England during this time. Kings such as Henry VIII placed themselves as head of the church and altered things within the church.

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  20. 1. The Millenary Petition was written in a time when criticizing King James directly was unwise. Because of this, the Puritan reformers do not mention any problems with royal supremacy. The Puritans express, however, that the English Reformation did not go far enough to completely purify the Church of England. This relates to the wars of religion, because this heightening tension between Protestants attempting to purge the Church of the Catholic visages and vice versa led to major conflicts and eventual fighting.

    2. In John Winthrop's explanation, he continuously expresses avid support of the Church of England and a devotion to spreading its gospel and erecting similar churches in the New World. However, the Purtians really intended to come to the New World and start a completely reformed and "purified" version of the Church. They also wanted to set up a new England, which would be modelled on their own theological teachings. This document relates to the wars of religion because it demonstrates a religious divide over Anglicans and Puritans that separated from the Church of England. This religious divide foreshadows the Puritans becoming a major political force in England and coming to power as a result of the First English Civil War.

    3. The Test Act was a restriction on Catholic and Nonconformists because it required a person had to take an Oath of Supremacy and receive the sacrament of the Lord's Supper before holding any office. This act basically insinuated that only followers of the Anglican Church could be publicly employed. This document relates to the wars of religion because it shows animosity between Catholics and Protestants and the unjust treatment of the Catholics which would later one of the causes of religious wars.

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